| "Dates Like This" creators Leigh Poulos (l) and Hannah Vaughn (r). |
So for the last couple of months I have had the pleasure of hosting the short lived web mini-series, "Dates Like This" on our parent website, PNT Tv. As you all know I hardly ever conduct interviews with the cast or crew of webseries, however I have to emphasize how gracious the creative team of Leigh Poulos and Hannah Vaughn have been throughout their very fascinating and intriguing series.
The absolutely originality of their storyline was the catalysis of the success of their show and its what has their fans clambering for more (including me). It is a shame that a show of this quality if not quantity, should be gone. Especially with the advent of the lightening growth of this medium it has caused a clutter of unoriginal, uninspiring and poorly run productions that are choking the pipeline blocking shows like this from gaining the audience they deserve.
So when one does get through as DLT did it is no wonder why audiences are tapping their keys and shaking their fist at their screens with the news of a no go on a season 2. The following is my interview with creators Hannah and Leigh.
1. How did the idea of creating a web series come about?
Hannah: We met at our shared survival job, Two Little Red Hens and both of us being actors we became friends and talked a lot about what projects we were working on and how we both wanted to create our own work and then we started talking about how we could actually DO that and the web series world has been growing so much it just seemed like the right way for us to showcase our work. For the actual story, my sister had sent me a link a couple of summers ago who was actually doing a 30 Dates in 30 Days project and told me to submit and I said no but when we were tossing around ideas for a show that could somehow feature us both and could work for a web series format, that just worked for everything. And then we decided to make it about lesbians.
Leigh: I also think the idea of a web series specifically appealed to us because of how accessible the media is. Anybody with a computer all over the world can just click a link and watch your show, any time they feel like it, and that's an incredibly powerful thing, to be able to directly reach your audience like that. It seemed so much more personal and hands on than, say, a short film, which we had originally discussed doing (and would still love to do). But something about a web series, just like a television series, brings the audience on a journey with the characters in a way that a film can't, by nature of being a sort of one shot deal. And we loved the idea of being able to create this online network of dating warriors; having the twitter and the facebook and the potential for viewer feedback and dialogue between creators/viewers that the internet makes possible.
2. Why did you decide to only have one season of the show?
Hannah: We really saw this project as more of a mini-series - the whole time we were creating it we treated it more like an HBO mini series than a sitcom so from start to finish that's just how we saw it.
Leigh: We fell in love with the concept of Meg taking the plunge to do the 30 Dates in 30 Days project, and what a bizarre and uncharacteristic pit stop it was on the road of Meg's life. So much of the driving force behind the series was this feeling of running an experiment, of pushing yourself outside of your comfort zone and documenting what happens. That's really what the story is about. So if you take those parameters away, like when she finishes the project, it's a different series all together.
3. Did you ever anticipate the popularity the show has enjoyed and if you had known would you have planned a continuous series?
Leigh: We certainly hoped it would be popular! I think if you're going to dive into a project like this you have to try to have a certain amount of confidence that it will be well received, but that said every ten new youtube views make your heart skip a beat. I don't know if people really understand how much power one individual message of "hey, i love your show, i really connected to this" had to make Hannah and I do a happy dance. It's hard to say if we would have been lured into a continuous series...obviously you want to do more if you know people want to watch!
Hannah: This has been a dream. We are SO thrilled to have such an enthusiastic response - this has been our baby for over a year now and to see it doing so well has been thrilling. I mean - I think it's great that series like Out with Dad and Anyone But Me, etc have had such success with multiple seasons but I think for us maintaining the integrity of the original plot would be hard to carry to another season. But we're definitely planning on working together again.
4. Is 'Dates Like This' your first foray into this medium (online series) and would you do it again?
Hannah: Yes for me it's the first time I've done this. I'd auditioned a lot for other web series and I have boundless respect for anyone jumping into the web series world and I think yeah - maybe down the line I'd do it again. But I think with a different story.
Leigh: I was part of the series regular cast of a really great, but short-lived web series a few years back, called Abandon. It was a wonderful learning experience for me in terms of discovering the boundless potential web series have, and also the pitfalls and difficulties of making one! I think online series have a bright, bright future as we become more and more digital, so I would happily be part of future webisodes.
5. Is this really the end for DLT?
Hannah: For now...
Leigh: Anyone have any suggestions?? :)
6. Do you or Leigh have any plans to do another series?
Hannah: We've been talking about scripts that we have for other projects - short films that we've both written and we've been really thinking about working on a feature film soon. So we've got some things simmering.
Leigh: It's true. The wheels are turning.
7. What advise would you share with filmmakers venturing into this medium?
Hannah:Have a good story and work with people that you trust 110%. You have to have a good story otherwise no one will watch and you have to work with people that you trust because most likely its going to be low or no budget and you will have to do a lot of work and you need to make sure you have a good person or people working with you otherwise it won't be fun anymore. And it should be fun!
Leigh: I second all of that. I would also say this: don't try to make a show that you think will appeal to everybody. You aren't trying to convince heads of a major network to pick you up and isn't that the beauty of online media? You're trying to connect to people. It can be overwhelming to try to please as many people as possible, so make a story that matters to you, and then think about the specific groups of people who you think will embrace that story. Target them, and forget everybody else. This will help you sooo much when marketing your series, too!
8. What is next for you and Leigh?
Hannah: We're both auditioning a lot again - hoping to get some good summer projects. I've got a play that I'm acting in that's in the workshop stage. And I'm producing a show in the NY International Fringe Festival called June and Nancy. It's about two women who fall in love in the 1950s - it's a great project and I'm really excited to be a part of it. And of course working on what scripts we have and trying to figure out which one will be our next project.
Leigh: I'm spending the summer on the west coast, up and down California, where I'm originally from. I'm trying to make some connections with west coast theaters, working with the LA branch of my theater company The Story Pirates (www.storypirates.org) and working on various acting related writing projects. And I plan on heading back to NYC in the fall! I miss it already...
9. Is their anything else you would like to add or promote?
Hannah: June and Nancy. (Shameless plug!) We'll happily take your donations. And you can also come see the show in August if you're in NYC! And just keep checking in with us on Facebook and Twitter - if we decide to work on a film (or series down the line) we'll be sure to spread the word there!
Leigh: This has nothing to do with my career, but it's a little passing on of good karma! One of our first donors to our kickstarter campaign was my dear friend Cait, and I would like to take this opportunity to plug her tumblr, Warriors&Wine, in which Cait and Rebekah, two Boston-dwelling lesbians, watch every episode of Xena while drinking copious amounts of wine and then blog amazing, thoughtful, witty commentary.
10. A question from a member: Are you or any of the castmembers gay?
Hannah: We are not and as far as we know, (we didn't do a poll) only one of our cast is.
11. Based on the answer of question 10 - Did that dynamic have anything to do with the story behind the series?
Hannah: I mean, we think the story is relatable if you're gay or straight - everyone has a fucking hard time dating sometimes. It's tough and we mostly just wanted to get the message out of "You are not a freak" everyone feels this way when they're dating sometimes - everyone's just trying their best to figure out what they want to do. All of our actors read the script and loved it - and we would get emails or calls from them saying - I loved this line! I totally know what that feels like to be in that situation! So that dynamic was already there. My mom is gay so I grew up surrounded by a lot of lesbians so I've felt like i'm a weird sub-sect of the lesbian community for a while - so that certainly had an influence on that part of the story.
Leigh: As the author, it has given me kind of a thrill that so many of our fans assume we must both be lesbians, because I think it's a testament to the series really striking a chord with its viewers. So many times we all think that if somebody understands something about our own personal experience they must be similar to us in all kinds of ways, and one of the messages I was trying to get across with the series is that that is in fact true, but maybe not in the ways we would expect. It's so easy to focus on the things that make each of us different and to get so caught up in your own subjective experience (like love-life woes, etc.) that it's easy to lose sight of how stupidly similar the big issues we all struggle with in our lives are. Somebody can be different from you are and still get it, still understand the things you struggle with. And that was a major point Hannah and I hoped to make with DLT--we are all more similar than meets the eye.
Footnote: I want to thank both Hannah and Leigh for their wonderful series and know that the bloggers and members of PNT Tv wish them the very best success in their future projects.
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